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and 6:00 p.m. eastern. >> my god, you're working for it today, chris. appreciate it, my friend. we are about to get an update on dorian, which is getting bigger and stronger and may be closer to clockering florida as the most powerful hurricane to hit the state in nearly 30 years. evacuation could come as soon as today. millions psychiatric bell to go grab emergency supplies. here's ron desantis within the last few minutes >> floridians need to be prepared. the bad news of the storm going slower is that could potentially have negative impacts once it reaches landfall. >> we have our team covering the state with the latest developments and all of the day's top stories. we want to get started with the latest track of dorian. michelle, i know we're getting an update on the track in just about 50 minutes to an hour here. but this thing is dangerous because it could potentially be
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so slow moving. >> hi there, hallie. we are expecting an update in an hour. we have a powerful category 2 storm. look at the latest stats. it's going to be interesting. category 2 storm winds at 110 miles per hour. it seems like every update it gets stronger and stronger. nothing is in its way at this point. moving at 12 miles per hour. that is a quick movement. it has been moving that fast the past couple of days. we will slow it down to 4 1/2 miles per hour. that is a walking pace or slow jog. very slow for a hurricane. it allows it to drop more rain over the area. this is the national hurricane center track. category 2 storm right now. we do anticipate it to blossom today, tomorrow, into a cat 3 storm. look what happens from saturday into sunday. a powerful, strong category 4
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storm. it is right over the open waters "the atlantic". if it stays there, it will definitely be category 4. take the heat. it will become more powerful. it will move to the north. we have its eye set on the eastern coast of florida. take a look at this. it is still pretty wide. it will be a couple days before we bring it in. southern florida, southern georgia. it is closer to the southern parts of florida. the one at 5:00 will tell us a little bit more. >> boy, michelle, that is a big uncertain cone right there. anybody who lives in florida at this point, you have to imagine we could end up in the path of this thing. >> absolutely. from the north to the south, you have to be prepared. thank you for that. we will check back in with you obviously at the top of the next hour. mariana is at palm beach gardens
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costco. you heard from the governor desantis who ta ud about the issue of gas shortages. talk about preparations and what people need to know. >> reporter: hallie, as the reports start to come in, people here are growing in anxiety, especially in the palm beach gardens location. we know at this point it can hit anywhere in florida. if some of these models come out, again, that could change. it is a very unpredictable storm. it could be headed straight here. this is about 14 miles north of west palm beach. this costco, the line went around the corner practically, around the building at 9:00 in the morning when the doors opened. one of the main things that people are looking to get is water. that's the line for water here behind me. the supervisors are telling folks they can only get two cases per person because there is not enough water for everyone here. now, these lines are people prepping on today's like today,
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that is exactly what authorities want to see. that is what the governor pointed to when he said earlier this morning at a press conference that people should have supplies for at least a week. let's listen. >> we urge all floridians to have seven days worth of food, medicine and water. this is potentially a multiday event where it will churn slowly across the state. that obviously creates a whole host of issues. but if you're in an area that has an impact from the storm, you should assume you are going to lose power. >> the other things that people are looking to get, hallie, generators. there was in fact, the lines since 5:00 in the morning at a nearby home depot. generators ran out. now people are hoping to get them here, hoping to get the nonpaeurb issno nonparrishables and ice. >> can't say it enough, better
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to be safe than sorry. you will have much more later in the show, including a live report from cape that 1/2 ral. we want to get to the 2020 campaign trail and possibly caucus chaos. nbc news has now learned we may get an official announcement that the democratic national committee will reject plans for virtual caucuses in iowa because of security concerns. more from garretthaque. what else are we learning about this decision from the dnc? >> sure. good morning, hallie. myself and our colleagues made calls overnight. we learned basically the dnc is not comfortable with the security of the technology that the iowa democratic party would be using for potential virtual
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caucus. basically the party is really concerned about security and the potential of a hack during a teleconference system especially after what we saw in 2016. after the incident in 2016 when the dnc was hacked, it recommended and put into motion changes so that states that caucuses have to offer voters an absentee option for those who can't show up in person. the caucus in iowa happens on a monday night in february. it's cold. there are snowstorms. people aren't safe on the roads. not everyone has the luxury of spending three plus hours in a church or high school gym. they had child care issues. not everyone has the time to participate in iowa's democratic process. so they were encouraged to offer an absentee ballot option. the news was definitely a shakeup. no one knows that will happen from here, whether or not it will affect february's caucus in 2020.
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we have spoken to folks familiar with the conversation. we will get guidance from the dnc at some point this morning. we expect them to recommend to reject the iowa's virtual caucus plan for this february. >> i know we will be checking back with you in iowa. somebody who has been spending a lot of time you have been covering, joe biden. his campaign is pushing back, defending this war story that biden has told people on the trail. i want to may a little bit of it and then come back to you for a reality check on this. >> this guy climbed down the ravine, carried this guy up on his back under fire. and the general wanted some he to pin the silver star on him. i got up there and i stand -- this is god's truth, my word as a biden. he said do not pin it on me, sir. please, sir. do not do that.
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he died. he died. >> now, the "washington post" is now reporting that nearly every detail of that story has told appears to be incorrect. he was mixing up elements of different events. here's biden's response. >> what i was talking about was a young man -- i mean, what is the gaffe when i said a young man i tried to pin a medal on and he said i don't want it, sir, he died, he died, he died. >> biden's campaign is making the point that voters don't care about gaffes like this one, everyone given, right, the basis of biden's story was essentially true. what are you hearing from voters? do they care or not? >> reporter: well, that's exactly right. i have bernie sanders behind me. an opportunity to see both of the two front-runners in the same state. what i can tell talking to the biden campaign is two-fold here. the biden campaign argues, yes,
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he screwed up the details but got the core part of the story right. this soldier did not want the medal that the vice president was there to pin on him. and voters don't care. as i have been in south carolina and other states, there is at least some truth to the argument. what people think about joe biden and his propensity to mess up details in these stories that he likes to tell is baked in. if you're someone who worries he is too old for the job or perhaps not up to it, you already thought that. if you are a fan of the vice president and likes that he speaks from the heart and trips over his feet when he is trying to tell the more complicated stories, that's something that you already knew about him. less than 24 hours since this story broke. that has been time and again what i hear from voters. this is something they kind of -- if not expect they are willing to tolerate. by and large, even those who are
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not necessarily signed up on the biden campaign train know this is who he is and where his heart is. it may be a disconnect between how it plays in iowa -- south carolina. man, i've been on the trail for a while. >> wherever you are, dude. garrett, thank you very much. morgan, appreciate it. both of us guys. michael steele is in washington, not iowa or south carolina. and former adviser to the 2016 hillary clinton campaign is here as well. i have a question for you. garrett made a point. disconnect. the story. yeah, listen, voters are saying, listen, whatever. not a big deal. >> i'm from south carolina, the place that will decide who our next democratic nominee will be. and the one thing that i hear consistent on the ground is that the reason people love joe biden is because of his authenticity,
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genuineness and honesty. and him being able to relate to everyday people. if you're an everyday person, we make mistake when we speak things. there is a big disconnect between washington, the media. every time the media wants to write the ben tkebgz ediction t candidacy he gets a little louder on the campaign trail. i will just remind people, particularly democrats, we have seen this before in 2016. that was the same ammunition republicans used to taint hillary clinton in the general election. the things that democrats tried to define her by we can't trust her, emails, et cetera. >> let's make the point if you are going to talk about people who conflate stories, this is just a factual statement. the person sitting in the oval office does that. they found that donald trump made 12,000 false or misleading
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claims, saying his wife gets along with kim jong-un most recently. >> they were parts of true stories that actually happened as opposed to 12,000 verifiable lies. so i think in the panoply whether there is truth or exaggeration, trump has set a standard that biden will never reach. >> is there a double standard? >> no. i think what this story does in the way some are coming at it, trying to put it on par with some of the stuff we have seen coming out of the white house. >> you think other candidates are coming at it? >> no. the way the press is talking about it. they are making this, like, oh, my god, penning the badge on this soldier. number one, garrett is right,
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people don't care on the ground. and number two, it is not what we have seen from this administration and the president. three, it is biden. a lot of that is baked in with voters. >> if you look at his body of work, that's what people care about. they care about fixing health care, lowering prescription drug prices, access. they could give two flying kuyts about things he may mix together. >> we will learn more we think litter today about the dnc saying no thank you. that is interesting. you made a face. i want to know why. the whole point is trying to get more people in the door, getting more people involved. >> change your caucus system to get more people in the door. but this is not how you want to do it in this environment coming off 2016 when you know you have predators, china and russia, looking for ways to access the system. you're now setting up a door for
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them to do that. they need to rethink it. i think the dnc is correct to sit back and go, no, we don't need to put this on line just yet. >> you know that song the first cut is the deepest. the first cut was the deepest in 2016. we know there was interference by foreign adversaries hacking into our elections for the nominee donald trump. the dnc should not go forward with this process. if it happened to a general election, imagine what it will be in a primary they want to set the tone for the republicans. i think it would be malpractice to go forward. >> you're concerned about election security moving forward. both of you interestingly on the same page on this. we are going to turn to a new
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segment. happy friday to both of you. appreciate it. more on the criminal case against jeffrey epstein, which may be closed. new details about the disgraced tppbteers alleged crimes emerging. new reporting on the extensive ring of women who helped the billionaire. first, with the president's polling trip scrapped, he is hunkering down. how the white house is getting ready and one senator's fight against the trump administration to get hundreds of millions of dollars of money to ukraine. bob mennendez is joining us aftr the break. $9.95 at my age?
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ambassador bolton and experts at the defense department >> reporter: that's right. giving ukraine more money for lethal weapons, 50 million to buy weaponry. it has been a bipartisan priority for the last several years. they actually pushed president obama to do it. president trump authorized lethal aid for ukrainians. now it has been put under review. what's unclear is the review based on serious policy consideration. is this going to represent a backtrack or is it about budgetary constraints. just last week the president lost the battle with the senate to slash 4 billion from federal aid from foreign aid to different countries. so we've got to get to the bottom of just why they are t doing this, whether it's budgetary or policiship. >> hans nichols with the selection of the tan suit today.
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i respect that. getting it in before labor day at the white house. now bob menendez. senator, thank you very much for being back on the show. i know this issue of military aid to the ukraine is one you had a high interest in. >> it is, hallie. look, when i was chair of the foreign relations committee we passed the act with broad bipartisan support, as it continues to have today in the united states senate. at a time that ukraine is having a day of national remembrance for all of those lives that have been lost because of the russian invasion into ukraine, and those ukrainian soldiers who were lost, we get message that the president is seeking to cut off $250 million. something we haven't been advised of. it's totally -- i can't understand. there's no good policy reason. this isn't about money we gave a
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record amount of money to the administration in this past deal. so either the president is somehow compromised, is either spineless as it relates to standing up to putin, or he's infatuated with his authoritarian figure. >> i'm told in conversations with senior administration officials, senator, that the president, this is intended -- this is what they say -- is looking for good governance here, making sure that the money is spent appropriately and allies internationally are also paying their fair share. i'm told nothing has changed. the money is still out there. could be obligated. could be spend at least right now since the president has not made a decision on it. does any of that give you comfort? if not, what message do you think this sends to vladimir putin? >> well, first of all, we're all for good governance. we have been assisting to pursue reforms as it relates to good governance. we have a new president in
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ukraine, sw ukraine. number two is we -- this seems to be the work of vladimir putin. probably telling donald just, you don't need to be spending that money there. at the end of the day, we're not going to do anything. putin has been engaged not only in the annexation of crimea, after being kicked out of what was the g8, but has russian soldiers in eastern ukraine in a continuous fight to destabilize ukraine and to keep -- to try to keep it in a russian orbit. we should be standing up to putin. but this president seems incapable of standing up to putin. he seems to do his work, whether advocating for him to return to the g7, make it the g8, whether the lack of sanction opportunities involved in our
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elections and so much more. >> two other topics before i have to let you go. we're watching very closely the situation in hong kong with police there intensifying their crackdown. what is your message to china here and what is your message to the president and how he has handled this so far? >> well, the president, once again, has not stood up for democracy and human rights. that has become almost, in my view, eliminated under this administration. one of the hallmarks of u.s. foreign policy, beacon of light to the rest of the world. and we should be saying very clearly to the chinese we stand resolutely with hong kong and its residents and its autonomy and independent rights to seek self-governance. instead of standing in solidarity with them, we see the president once again either silent or willing to trade hong kong for other interests that he has as it receipts to china.
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>> you currently have a lot of differences with the president. i wonder if you found agreement on one issue, the president remaining home as dorian takes aim in florida. can you applaud the president approximate say that was good to stay home because of this barreling storm coming through in a few days. >> look, it's something worth while to be on hand, as you deal with the potential of significant natural disaster. but it doesn't make any sense when you're looking to take i think it's about 250 or 270 million dollars away from fema as we face a major hurricane in dorian hitting florida and as we face the hurricane system. so you can stay home. if you're staying home to take money from fema, which deals with disaster assistance at the heart of hurricane season, you're doing more harm than good. >> senator, thanks for being back on the show.
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appreciate your perspective. >> thank you. >> floridians getting ready as hurricane dorian gathers steam and plows towards the u.s. live on the ground. cape canaveral next. pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. the first survivor of alzis out there.ase and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen. but we won't get there without you. join the fight with the alzheimer's association.
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we are now just about 30 minutes away from a new update from the national hurricane center on the track of hurricane dorian. we heard from governor desantis in the last hour telling people to listen to what emergency officials are saying. go out and do like these people, stock up on a week's worth of feed, water, make sure you have the medicine you need. some of these folks are listening, which is a good thing. we have two eye reports for you. jay gray is in daytona beach. kathy, let me start with you. both of you have fairly decent-looking live shots. we don't expect that sunday night, monday, right, kathy? >> reporter: that's right. conditions have been favorable all day, all morning long. this is a window of opportunity that folks can take to stock up on supplies. we have seen long lines snaking
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around the sandbagging stations. folks waiting in line for hours to get the supplies. while there is growing fear and anxiety pause we're not sure when exactly dorian will hit, one thing is for sure. love is in the air. i want to bring in louis and pam. they literally just got married moments ago on the beach. hurricane, no hurricane, rain or shine. you guys did it. first of all, congratulations. >> thank you. . >> thank you so much. >> what were you thinking going into this big day and knowing dorian was just around the corner? >> oh, my god, i'm going to be wet but we're doing it. . >> how was the big day? it was just a few minutes ago. >> it's awesome. people will tell you weather is a metaphor. so if we have a hurricane, it's a lot of loving. >> you're going on a cruise? >> disney dreams. >> the itinerary has changed. the situation is a bit fluid out
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in the waters. >> yes. >> but congratulations once again. love seeing that sweet moment with you guys. obviously a happy moment. happy news to share, hallie. >> did they consider moving up their wedding? it seems like they dodged a bullet. >> reporter: yeah. hallie was just asking was this day firm? did you plan on having the wedding today, this morning? >> yes, ma'am, with he did. >> reporter: regardless of what was happening? >> yes. >> reporter: mother nature? >> yes. there >> reporter: and it went on as planned, which is fantastic. that is a bright spot. thank you. jay gray, you i don't think are at a wedding, my friend. you are among some preparations there where they are getting ready for potential flooding, right? the storm as we talked about with michelle grossman, our meteorologist, a few moments ago, might phaouf really slow meaning once it hits it will stick around for a while >> reporter: yeah, hallie. no nuptials here. not a lot of people on the
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beach. >> minus the guy on bookie boarding behind you. >> reporter: it really got people's attention. yeah, we have had a few guys out testing the waves. otherwise, it's been relatively calm. a bit of spitting rain. that's just the coastal showers you get every couple of days here in florida. as you talked about coming into all of this, officials, first responders urging people not only here but across the state, use this time-wisely. get prepared. we have in this area seen people lined up at grocery stores, gas stations, home improvement stores, getting supplies they need for a full week or more without power. and now comes the tough part for so many people, waiting, watching, trying to determine where the storm is going to go. we hear landfall is likely late monday, early tuesday morning. we don't have a spot. it has been an unpredictable storm. even though long time veterans, that's the toughest part, the not knowing. you talk about evacuations.
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you can't really do that until you know where the storm is going. what officials are urging people, be packed and ready to go if your area needs to be cleared out, don't have to spend time getting things ready. >> right. >> be ready to get to higher ground. >> smart advice. jay, thank you. be safe. appreciate it. make sure, by the way to head to nbc news.com/dorian. we'll have all the latest updates as it heads to the u.s. in 30 minutes, the new update where dorian might be headed next. while the criminal case against jeffrey epstein has been officially closed, we are learning about his ring of women being looked at by federal authorities. that reaches past gu lane maxwell. they call the organized network of underlings, those who trade girls, office assistants who cae
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who made sure he had girls at the ready. frances, thank you very much for being on the show with this significant new reporting that you have. >> reporter: thanks so much for having me. >> you lay out the hierarchy for the ring. maxwell at the top. under her, this so-called lieutenant. what are investigators looking at now? >> it is really interesting. you have a couple of different layers of people. people who have more personal and sexual relations like ghislaine maxwell. sarah kelyn and leslie groff was an employee. i was just doing my job, scheduling meetings. but you have a ring under them which are basically recruiters. some of them in high school. >> and some of them, by the way, according to your reporting, some of the women were initially victims themselves. what kind of challenges does that present? how does that play into this? >> that will be a very big deal.
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one of the women in particular, even in the police documents is refused to as epstein's sex slave. she, in a lot of the testimony from a lot of the women, is named as a person who victimized them. so how do you go after her? how do you criminalize a person who has herself been a victim? so that's a tricky thing. when she turns from victim to a person victimizing others; there culpability? that will be a big test from the prosecutors. . >> one of the things we heard about those who spoke publicly, they were deceive stavastated, haven't conveyed their concerns. given their voice to the person who wanted to hear it. what have you heard from some of the women, not just epstein, who may have been involved in this? >> you know, they are very clear. this is not over. this is not over with mr. epstein's death. they want to see culpability with the ring of people that made this happen. jeffrey epstein could not do this by himself because he
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didn't have access to high school girls. needed people to bring him the girls. whether that is someone who stood outside high school, some of them who booked imagimassage trips, people did that for him. those women want justice for those individuals as well. >> is there a timeline? any idea on how long this next phase or next piece of this investigation may take? >> you know, that's a really good question. one of the things you noticed in the last indictment in the u. s. attorneys' office in new york is they mentioned co spear tors. it was clear this was in the works. with mr. epstein's death, they suddenly had to shift their focus from mr. epstein to these other women. there is no statute for federal sex trafficking charges. so they can take all the time they need. >> frances, thank you. we want to note that kelyn and g g
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g groff did not respond. we'll stay on top of the story up ahead, much more ahead on the show, one of the longest serving assistants to the presidents is suddenly out of a job. spoiler, sources tell us to look into leaking. he is so angry with james comey and his own doj. we have the fallout from that decision next.
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loose lips cinque ships. or terminate jobs in this case. sources say madeline is out of a job for sharing information the president did not want shared. she's the woman who was escort willing people interviewing for cabinet positions into the president-elect's office. mr. she is next to gary cohen. she ended up in the west wing as his personal assistant, at least until today. the "new york times" first reported that she stepped down after in discreetly sharing details about the president's family and the oval office she was part of at a recent off-the-record dinner staying at hotels near bedminster, new jersey. nbc's hans nichols is back with us at the white house. interesting personnel
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maneuvering here. the reason we are talking about is it was not a name that got mentioned a lot, right? she was with the president all the time, kind of a gate keeper to him. >> in the west wing proximity is power. she have right next to the president's office. many reporters tried to cultivate her to pull back the occur fan for your viewers. there are off-the-record dinners that take place all the time. the president isful extraingtra across the country. the goal on the outings is to get information from people close to the president trying to figure out what's on his mind, what his routine is like. what day to day is taking place. this dinner was apparently off the record. somewhere along the line it appears, and i stress appears because we don't know the full story, it appears some of the information got back to the president, in a was sharing and it was of a personal nature. you know this as well as anyone, there are dozens of conversations that take place
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every day. this white house and any other white house that are off the record in nature. there is nothing unusual about that. what is unusual about this is just what was shared and how swiftly the termination of the resignation came. hallie? >> hans nichols at the white house. thanks, thank you. see you at the white house in a bit. the president has plenty to say this morning about one of them. former fbi james comey and the blistering report on him. he is tweeting the fact that comey was not prosecuted to the absolutely horrible things he did just shows how fair and reasonable attorney general bill barr is. we shared this yesterday as it broke on this show 24 hours ago. finding comey violated doj and fbi policies and how he handled memos detailing his conversations with president trump. but the justice department stopped short of charging comey with any crime. by not safeguarding sensitive information obtained during the course of his fbi employment, and by using it to create public
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pressure for official action, comey set a dangerous example. a friend of the show, tom, thank you for being here. >> good to see you, hallie. >> fallout. let's talk about. rod rosenstein seems to be throwing shade. >> that's for sure. in his understated way. >> exactly. let me read it to people. we should be most on guard when we believe our own uncomfort circumstances justify ignoring principles respected by our predecessors. >> he is saying it is precisely when the temptation to violate longstanding traditions and policies is at its zenith, that's when you most need to respect it. that's why these rules are in place so you don't have people who think they are answering to a higher calling, circumventing the laws that have been employed by the fbi and doj for decades. >> harry litman, somebody else often on the show wrote that the
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doj report failed to contextualize comey's decision. i want to read this to you. when a president summons the fbi director to demand loyalty, and then urges the director during a second conversation to drop a criminal investigation against an ally, we are not in normal territory in procedures. there was a lot of talk about that context. is that important here? was that important for the doj to consider? >> i think it's fair to say that should have been taken into account, why comey did what he did. but i will point out there were other channels comey could have used to request the appointment of special counsel short of taking the measures that he did leaking memos, taking they will out of the office and that sort of thing. so i think while it is important to understand the context, i don't know it will fully justify what he did. >> comey does feel it is clearly
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important. he is tweeting about this, defending himself. he has not re -- did not release classified information at the time some of what was later classified at its lowest level saying i don't need a public apology about those who defamed me, but a quick message with a sorry we lied about you would be nice. >> he evaded prosecution which is critical. he is not getting charged by the justice department. that's a victory for jim comey. as you correctly noted this was a a little bittering report. it doesn't put comey in a good light. it suggested he was motivated by higher political inning steupbgts and he was willing to disregard doj procedures. i don't think he can be proud of a lot of findings that were found in the report. >> always great to have you. up next, your new low. that is how one congressman is responding to the administration looking to deport the most vulnerable. tarting children with
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lets families stay in the u.s. and avoid deportation while getting life-saving medical care. democratic ed marquis tweeted this could be a de facto death sentence for patients. we all need to stand together, he says, against the deportation of sick and vulnerable children. let me bring in now nbc's julia ainsley. julia, explain what we know about the elimination of this program. it seemed to have happened without much notice to these families, right? >> there was no notice to these migrant families nor was there notice to the agency where they are now supposed to apply. u.s. citizenship and immigration services which has routinely for decades taken these kind of requests, what's called deferred action for deportation, not just for sick immigrants but others who might have fallen through the cracks, they have always reviewed these requests. now they're being told -- these immigrants are being told go to i.c.e. but i.c.e. has no plan for this in the was news to them from the was no coordination. the two, i understand, just had their first meeting on wednesday. but an i.c.e. official told me
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they still have no plans. they don't know how to review these requests because it's simply not a function i.c.e. has ever performed before. they under the business of deporting people, not deciding who not to deport. >> so i'm trying to understand the process here, julia, and the times which initially think reported this story has a quote from a woman. she was 7 years old when she came to the u.s. for treatment. she's been told she'll be deported now. she says i've been feeling super scared and overwhelmed. she says the treatment i received keeps me alive. her lower body is paralyzed from this disease that she has, an enzyme disorder essentially. ha is maria supposed to do? where do these migrants who are receiving this care, where does she go? what agency does she knock on the door of now? i.c.e.? >> they're supposed to go to i.c.e., but for example i spoke to a woman who was asking for the same thick becaung because wanted deferred action because her husband died and she lost her legal status to be here and
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she'll be deported leaving her child behind. she's now been told she has to leave the countried on be arrest and deported by october. these people are running out of options. even people with good lawyers who are trying to fight the system. >> you mentioned attorneys, julia, that was my next question. what legal recourse is there? have you heard about any potential lawsuits being filed here? what's the next step? >> i think that there could be lawsuits filed. i don't know of any on the horizon right now. but the idea has been for a long time there were 20,000 cases granted this kind of medical or otherwise deferred action per year. when we look at about 2012 through 2016. the trump administration dropped how many they were granting, but now they're coming to a halt. so the question is, where could these people go and what responsibility does i.c.e. have for this? >> julia ainsley reporting on that for us from washington. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> i appreciate it. coming up at the top of the hour, we are now six minutes away from the latest track from the hurricane center on dorian with people in florida bracing
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day. this is joe biden's fifth trip to south carolina. earlier this week bernie sanders on a multiple day trip. i've been trying to figure out how she's campaigns judge success. it's not just crowd size to the find out how the crowds are feeling about these campaigns, you have to go beyond and ask about volunteer signups. when you're in iowa not an issue here, in south carolina. but the campaigns are starting in a building stage right now. a lot more focus on infrastructure than just the big pretty crowd events that we're seeing right now. the post important things my sources at these events are saying what happens all along the edges where you have volunteers signing up to build that army that will matter six months from yesterday when south carolina goes to the polls. >> and in this instance, the vide volunteers around the edges packing the chairs up. >> thank you. >> that does it for this hour of msnbc live. right now much more of my colleague craig melvin. i know you're watching hurricane
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dorian's track very closely this morning. >> in fact, that's where we're going to start. craig melvin here at msnbc headquarters in new york city. breaking moments ago from the national hurricane center, the latest update about how strong and destructive hurricane dorian will be as it pushes toward florida. what we know right now about where it could make landfall. also joe biden playing defense this morning, pushing back strongly on this report that he mischaracterized a story about a war hero. and president trump's inner circle shrinking by one. what could be behind this personal assistant's abrupt departure from the west wing. we'll get to that in a moment. but we start with that breaking news. florida preparing for the worst as hurricane dorian roars toord that state toward that east coast. dorian's path still unpredictable, but we can see the size of the storm from space. this is the view from the
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